Internalized homophobia and FtMs, again

This post is a part of a series of posts based on the book Female-to-Male Transsexuals in Society by Holly/Aaron Devor. My introductory post on the series can be found here.

The chapter Looking for Love details their growing awareness of their sexuality, starting with their masturbation fantasies and ending with their first sexual experiences with other people. There is a constant, obvious theme of internalized homophobia throughout their narratives, based on the fact that although these young women wanted to make love to other women, they believed they could only do so as men.

This post contains frank and open discussion of masturbation so TMI warning!

The participants in the study reported a wide range of adolescent masturbation habits from “as often as possible” to “I hated my body and wouldn’t touch it at all (p264–265).” Those who masturbated reported imagining themselves as men. The author researched the rate at which general population adolescent girls reported masturbating in the same time period for comparison’s sake, and she concluded: “Forty-one percent of participants who masturbated during adolescence reported that they did so twice a week or more. This rate is at least twice that reported elsewhere among other teenaged girls (p269.)” This conclusion bears the vague implication that these girls were more masculine in their frequency of masturbation, although the fact that other participants didn’t do it at all would contradict that. At any rate, twice a week or more sounds normal to me!

“Well over three quarters (82 percent) of the twenty-two participants who masturbated as adolescents said that they did so while imagining themselves as men. All of them except Jordie and Grant imagined themselves to be straight men wooing heterosexual females (p266).”

Some of them reported “humping against something while imagining themselves as fully equipped males engaging in coitus (p267).” One of them reported using a pillow and one of them reported using the couch. There is an amusing quote in there that I will include so you can chuckle over it as I did: “Steven ‘mounted the couch’ so frequently that when Steven was five years old her little sister wanted to know why she played ‘horsey’ on the couch so often (p268).” (LOL You go, girl!) I’ve heard this sort of thing before from FtMs and I’ve already ranted about it. However, that doesn’t stop me from ranting about it again!

It is perfectly understandable and logical that a girl would hump something in order to masturbate. That’s because the body part that girls are stimulating is the clitoris, located on the outside of the body. It also needs to be said here that the clitoris is located in a similar place on the female body to where the penis is located on the male body, because those two organs are analogous, and in fact, develop from the same fetal tissue while in the womb. With apologies for the TMI, I learned to masturbate by humping things too. I would guess that at some point I was moving around in bed and noticed a sensation, similar to the way other girls report suddenly noticing a sensation while straddling a pillow or the arm of the couch. Again, it’s perfectly understandable and logical that any girl would hump things, because of the way our anatomy is set up. Hearing women interpret their desire to hump things as “masculine” leaves me baffled. Not just because anything girls do is what girls do, but because I think girls are more likely to hump things than boys are (wouldn’t boys squish their penis if they did that?) and so humping things is probably particularly feminine. FtMs talk about humping a pillow while imaging being a man making love to a woman as if it proves their maleness. I did the exact same thing as a youth—used a pillow while imagining being on top of a girl, and sometimes I even imagined myself as a boy, because obviously it would be sexy if I could put my own organ of pleasure into another girl (like, duh!) These are just normal things to think about if you are a female homosexual. The logical conclusion to draw if you are female and wanting to hump another female is that you are a lesbian (or bisexual). How you can leap into the far-fetched idea that you have an innate maleness even though you are female is beyond me. It’s faulty thinking.

One participant said this regarding her fantasies where she imagined herself as a man:

“How can I fantasize making love to a woman when I’m not equipped completely to make love to a woman?…Okay, in…most of my fantasy life…I could be…this other person who is normal. Now, that person…he can be as normal as possible. Absolutely (p266–267).”

There are two homophobic assumptions in this short paragraph. One is that a woman cannot make love to a woman. The other is that homosexuals aren’t normal. More faulty thinking. Women can make love to women, in a variety of satisfying ways, and homosexuals are statistically uncommon, but not abnormal in the sense of unacceptable.

These girls were mostly attracted to girls but attempted to date boys anyway during adolescence in order to be seen as “normal.”

“When she did finally have intercourse with a young man on several occasions in the back seat of a car, it was because she didn’t want people to think that she was lesbian (p276).”

“Sam’s first marriage began as an anti-lesbian assertion. Sam remembered that it made her ‘tremendously angry’ when people called her a lesbian, and Sam said flatly, ‘that’s why I got married.’ (p279).”

The author asked her participants whether they pursued relationships with other girls during adolescence, and noted that a lot of them refrained even though they were attracted to girls.

“One reason which was given by several people was that they were sexually ignorant and had no idea that it was possible for two females to have sexual relations. They were only aware of a heterosexual option at that point in their lives and thus took their attractions to girls as an indicator of their repressed maleness. A second frequent impediment to participants’ acting upon their desires was their belief that homosexuality was wrong and that they should therefore deny any such feelings as much as possible (p282.)”

And here is a whole truckload of homophobic statements, one after the other. Hang on to your hats!

One participant “felt that only boys could love women, or that only boys could be sexual with girls” and another said she “knew that I could not physically make love to a woman (p283).” Another participant said “That really embarrassed me. I knew that that was wrong…I fantasized things that I wanted to do—to live with them, and be with them, and date them…I felt that that was wrong…for me to do that with girls…So, I didn’t tell anybody about that…I didn’t know what a lesbian was. I didn’t know that was a possible choice…I thought I was the only one…Nobody else is doing this…This is very abnormal (p283).” Another participant said “involvements with girls were out of the question” and another said she was “never even willing to consider kissing a female until after beginning to live as a man (p283).” Another participant said “At that point, I knew what I wanted, but I wasn’t right for it. I wanted to be a male and be with a woman. But I wasn’t, my body wasn’t right for it. And the idea of two females was just, I mean, like, I got fighting mad when I started getting called a lesbian (p283).” Another participant said “I used to get out my parents’ Sears catalogue and look at the women in their underwear. I got turned on…But I thought, I can’t do this the way I am. I have to be a boy because girls don’t like girls…It wasn’t allowed. It wasn’t right. Because, how can women be attracted to women? (p283–284).”

One participant describes going to a bar with a lesbian and going to her house and, although she thought it felt nice to be caressed, she then had a strong homophobic reaction. “I felt sick to my stomach, for some reason, about being there. And then I remember the next day, she came up to me when I was changing a tire, and she tried to caress me, or touch me, and I just blew my stack. And I just blew it. I lost it all…I couldn’t admit that it felt nice to me. It was taboo. It needed to be taboo. Because it was wrong for girls to like girls…It’s just not okay. And I heard that she was a lesbian, and she touched me, and I blew off the handle (p284).” Another participant said that lesbians were “scary people” and “couldn’t imagine why two girls would want to be together (p286).” This same participant managed to have sex with a woman during her adolescence while they imagined she was a man, and she described this as “normal heterosexual attraction (p286).” A second participant had a sexual relationship with a woman, while requiring her to imagine she was a man, but “I stopped the relationship when she wanted to perform lesbian sex acts on me because lesbian sex acts tend to disgust me and I want no part of them (p284).” Another participant “believed that the crushes which she had on other girls were ‘wrong’ and that she was ‘screwed up’ and ‘fucked up’ for feeling the way she did (p287).”

Another participant, Dale, “was particularly tormented about being homosexual. Dale knew what a homosexual was because she had looked it up in a dictionary, but she was not happy about being such a disreputable person. Dale remembers being ‘horrified’ and ‘so ashamed’ of herself for her ‘unnatural feelings.’ (p290)” Dale also said “I don’t think I could have lived if people knew” and “I really didn’t like myself at all (p290).” Another participant “was so distressed about her attractions to females and about her unwelcomed puberty that she started drinking heavily at age eleven (p291).” She did kiss another girl as an adolescent and remarked “I knew it wasn’t right. That I shouldn’t be doing that, being female. And I felt really bad about the whole thing (p291).”

Had enough yet? I think the only place you’d find more homophobia is at the Westboro Baptist Church. I don’t believe for a second that any of these women were distressed because of having an “innate male gender identity.” They were aware of the fact that they were females attracted to females, and the belief that this was wrong was the source of their distress. Their desire to be men cannot be separated from their belief that only men could do what they wanted to do.

Those participants who did have relationships with other women in their youth sometimes found women who were willing to pretend they were male. Three participants found women who were “accepting of participants’ evaluations of themselves as men” and “considered themselves to be heterosexual (p294–295).” One participant had a four-year sexual relationship with another woman that neither of them thought of as a lesbian relationship and in which they had “very rigid gender stereotyped roles (p293).” Another participant believed that her partner “related to the male inside of me (p295).” There is a lot of pretending going on here. The reality is that both partners had female bodies but they were both willing to imagine one of them as male and their relationship as heterosexual. This is what happens when both members of a couple have internalized homophobia.

Some of the participants in the study went on to have adult lesbian relationships, which are documented in another chapter. They often compared themselves to other lesbians and concluded that they were significantly different since they desired to be men and other lesbians were happy to be women. Although I agree that lesbians don’t typically desire to be men, I don’t believe that these individuals desired to be men on the basis of an innate maleness, but because of unresolved internalized homophobia, interpretation of their sexual desires as masculine, and hatred of their bodies, all of which could be resolved in therapy. There is a lot of faulty thinking that needs correcting, such as the belief that the way a female experiences her female body and sexual desires makes her somehow male. The idea that a female can be innately male is absurd and nonsensical.

Things surely would have been different in their lives if they had been taught that homosexuality is acceptable and that two women can indeed have satisfying sex. The odd thing about transitioning to male on the basis of wanting to make love to a woman as a man is that FtMs can never get anything close to a real penis. They can either have an enlarged clitoris (which surely cannot satisfy a straight woman wanting heterosexual intercourse) or they can have a rolled up piece of arm skin sewn onto their pelvis. In either case, they will have to use either their hands, their mouth, or a dildo (or other prosthetic) in order to make love to a woman, just like they would have as a lesbian. I just don’t see what FtMs gain by being a hairier and more muscular woman who ends up having the same sex that lesbians have anyway. It all seems like an elaborate performance piece. Some participants in this study reported having sexual relations with another woman where both of them imagined her being a man. Taking testosterone is like a permanent man costume, allowing the lesbian couple to continue looking straight 24/7, but they are still unable to perform heterosexual intercourse because there is never any penis involved no matter how much surgery she has.

After reading this chapter, I felt enraged and horrified by all the homophobia I saw, and I wondered how this homophobia seems to be lost on other people. The author of the study proceeds with the idea in mind that these people did indeed have an innate maleness and doesn’t ever suggest homophobia as a cause of their desire to be male. The FtM trans activist who wrote a foreward at the beginning of the book suggested that this study provided a fair and positive portrayal of transsexual people. Neither of these two have demonstrated any concern about the level of homophobia on display. The author of the study was a woman in a relationship with a woman while doing this research, and not only did she not draw conclusions about the homophobia inherent in transsexualism, but she became transsexual herself!

Many of the women quoted above were adolescents in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s. I expect that FtMs today are probably far less homophobic, and many would be just as horrified by this homophobia as I am. However, I am still seeing signs of internalized homophobia and interpretation of lesbian desires as “male” in FtMs who discuss their reasons for transition today. Female-to-male transsexualism has a history of being an escape for lesbians who didn’t want to be lesbians, and it’s still being used this way at least some of the time.

(The next post in this series is FtMs comparing themselves to lesbians.)


Human reproductive anatomy 101

It has become apparent that there are fully grown adults who don’t understand the facts of human reproductive anatomy. This is rather alarming. I thought everyone got the “birds and the bees” talk at home and a sex ed lesson at school, or at least figured it out on their own from interacting with people, but nope! Since this information is essential for understanding human beings, and in preventing unwanted pregnancy during intimate relationships, it’s important that everyone is aware of it.

Humans reproduce sexually, meaning we come in two sexes and we create new humans by combining a sperm from the male with an ovum (egg) from the female. Here are some helpful defintions of these terms from the American Heritage Science Dictionary (Boston : Houghton Mifflin Co., 2005).

Female: (adjective) 1. In organisms that reproduce sexually, being the gamete that is larger and less motile than the other corresponding gamete (the male gamete) of the same species. The egg cells of higher animals and plants are female gametes. 2. Possessing or being a structure that produces only female gametes. The ovaries of humans are female reproductive organs. Female flowers possess only carpels and no stamens. 3. Having the genitalia or other structures typical of a female organism. Worker ants are female but sterile. (Noun) 4. A female organism.


Male: (adjective) 1. In organisms that reproduce sexually, being the gamete that is smaller or more motile than the other corresponding gamete of the same species (the female gamete). The sperm cells of higher animals and plants are male gametes. 2. Possessing or being a structure that produces only male gametes. The testicles of humans are male reproductive organs. Male flowers possess only stamens and do not possess carpels. (Noun) 3. A male organism.

Sex: Either of two divisions, male and female, into which most sexually reproducing organisms are grouped. Sex is usually determined by anatomy, the makeup of the sex chromosomes, and the type and the amount of hormones produced. When the sex of an organism is determined by the sex chromosomes, males and females are generally produced in equal numbers. In other organisms, such as bees and wasps, in which females develop from fertilized eggs and males develop from unfertilized eggs, distribution of the sexes is unequal.

Sex chromosome: Either of a pair of chromosomes, usually called X and Y, that in combination determine the sex of an individual in many animals and in some plants. In mammals, XX results in a female and XY in a male, while the opposite is true in birds (where the designations ZW for female and ZZ for male are often used.) Sex chromosomes carry the genes that control the development of reproductive organs and secondary sex characteristics.

Sexual reproduction: The reproduction of organisms by the union of male and female reproductive cells (gametes).

Reproductive system 1. The system of organs involved with animal reproduction, especially sexual reproduction. The structure of animal reproductive systems depends on the type of fertilization (internal or external) and whether the animal lays eggs or bears live offspring. In mammals, the reproductive system consists mainly of the ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, and vagina in females and the testes, sperm ducts, and penis in males.

When we speak of “males” and “females” we are referring to those humans whose bodies produce male gametes or female gametes. In humans, the sex chromosomes XX produce a female (a human with female gametes) and the sex chromosomes XY produce a male (a human with male gametes). These chromosomes also produce the reproductive organs and the secondary sex characteristics. In rare cases there are people born with ambiguous sex characteristics, but this does not negate the fact that this is how human reproduction works and that most humans (at least 99%) are unambiguously male or female with typical sex characteristics.

Let’s discuss exactly what human body parts are considered male and female sex organs. From the book Anatomy and Physiology: A Complete Introduction by David Le Vay. (London : John Murray Learning, 2015.)

“The essential sex organs are the gonads, which are a pair of testes in the male forming the spermatozoa, and a pair of ovaries in the female forming the ova. The general plan of the reproductive system in both sexes is not dissimilar, but the ovaries remain in the abdominal cavity while the testes lie outside it. And in the female there is a uterus to house the developing embryo, while the penis of the male is represented in the female by the diminutive clitoris.

Male organs

The testes develop in the abdominal cavity but pass down before or just after birth to enter the loose skin pocket of the scrotum externally, where they hang down on each side of the root of the penis…The testes are ovoid, with a tough capsule made up of lobules containing the fine seminiferous tubules in which the spermatozoa are formed. Applied to their outer side is a curved organ, the epididymis, which receives sperm from the testis. It is an intricately coiled tube from which issues the ductus deferens, which is the main spermatic channel and runs up to the abdomen. Testes and epididymis lie vertically in the scrotum, surrounded by a loose serous sac.

The penis consists of a central bulb arising from the centre of the perineum, traversed by the urethra, and two lateral crura springing from the sides of the bony pubic arch. These join to form the shaft of the organ, a cross-section of which is shown in Figure 22.4 (Not included here.) Here, the part containing the urethra, the continuation of the bulb, is the corpus spongiosum below, with the corpora cavernosa, continuations of the crura above on each side. It is to these latter that the organ owes its property of increase in length and girth on sexual excitement, becoming rigid. This process of erection is due to a system of cavernous spaces which can be rapidly distended with blood from the penile arteries (p. 332).”

“Female organs

The ovaries are a pair of almond-shaped organs lying on the side-wall of the pelvis just below its brim. They are studded with the ovarian follicles, in which the egg cells or ova ripen, one coming to maturity each month. All the ova that will ever exist are already present at birth, although in a state of immaturity, whereas spermatozoa are continually formed throughout a man’s life. The ovaries are embedded in the broad ligament, which stretches from the uterus to either side of the pelvis. In the upper free edge of this ligament are the uterine tubes, or fallopian tubes, which are attached to the uterus like outstretched arms. These muscular channels open into the uterus medially and have at their outer ends a fringed, funnel-like entrance, which embraces the ovaries so as to receive the ova when shed. The uterus, or womb, is a hollow organ with thick muscular walls, lying in the pelvis between the bladder in front and the rectum behind. It communicates below with the vagina and at each side with the uterine tubes. It is tilted forwards so that its anterior surface rests on the bladder. Both surfaces and the dome or fundus are covered with peritoneum, and the peritoneal pouch between uterus and rectum is the deepest part of the abdominal cavity.

The vagina is a distensible canal, capable of receiving the penis during intercourse and of allowing passage of the child in parturition. It extends from the uterus, which it meets at an angle of 90º, to run down and forward through the pelvic floor and open externally on the perineum. Part of the cervix protrudes into the vaginal vault, the encircling rim of which is known as the fornix. The front wall of the vagina is blended with the back of the bladder and urethra. The back wall of the vagina is separated from the rectum by fibrous tissue.

The external female genitalia are known as the vulva. The includes the mons pubis, a fatty hair-covered eminence in front of the pubic symphysis. The skin folds forming the lips of the vaginal orifice comprising the outer thick labia majora and the inner slender labia minora. The clitoris is a diminutive but sensitive erectile equivalent of the penis, and lies at the meeting of the labia in front (p. 334–335).”

Fertilization is the process of making a female pregnant by introducing a sperm from the male to her ripe ovum. The fertilized egg then develops into a baby over a period of nine months. From Anatomy and Physiology: A Complete Introduction by David Le Vay:


Fusion of the male spermatozoon with the ovum normally occurs in the uterine tube as the egg is moving towards the uterus. It can only occur if a living sperm derived from the male by recent intercourse has made its way up the vagina, through the cervix and body of the uterus into the uterine tube. Success therefore depends on a near coincidence of intercourse and ovulation, approximately within 48 hours, so that the likelihood of any single sexual act resulting in pregnancy is small. When the male ejaculates, a pool of semen is deposited in the vaginal vault around the cervix. The sperm have to penetrate the cervical mucus, and upward progress is no more than 3 mm/min. their overall progress in the uterus and uterine tube is much faster, aided by muscular propulsion in these organs. During their ascent there is an enormous reduction in sperm count. Around 100 million spermatozoa are deposited in the vagina, but only a million enter the uterus, and approximately a hundred reach the ovum. Spermatozoa do not remain active and fertile in the female tract for more than two days. Once the ovum has been penetrated by a spermatozoa, rapid changes ensue. The nuclei of the two cells fuse and the ovum becomes impenetrable to other spermatozoa (p. 337).”

This is the natural process of fertilization resulting in heterosexual intercourse, but of course, due to medical science doctors can fertilize an egg in a medical clinic without the woman having intercourse.

For more relevant information on this subject, also look up menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, and secondary sex characteristics.

There seems to be some confusion over the words “man” and “woman” and how they should be defined. The word man means an adult human male, and the word woman means an adult human female. Male and female are biological terms that refer to the gametes and structure of the reproductive organs. The word “man” is used when referring to an adult male rather than a young male. The word “woman” is used when referring to an adult female rather than a young female.

Some people use the words “man” and “woman” to refer to cultural, social and emotional ideas about who men and women are. There certainly are lots of cultural ideas about who men and women are, but that doesn’t mean that when we refer to males and females we should invoke cultural ideas, which are specific to time and place, and vary from person to person, rather than naming the reality of male and female bodies. This simply leads to confusion, since it is impossible to define “man” and “woman” coherently using cultural, social, and emotional ideas.

The idea that there are no body parts that are inherently male or female is untrue and defies the entire fields of science and medicine. If anyone wants to make a claim that what we know about human reproductive anatomy is false, they will have to provide scientific research that disproves our current knowledge.

Male and female bodies are classified as male or female based on their anatomy and genetics, not on the feelings, ideas, identities, clothing styles, or personalities of the individual.

The scientific classification of living things was not invented by feminists nor is it defined by us. It is measurable and observable information about the natural world that we can see when we study living organisms. I urge anyone who doubts this information to look it up themselves in any science textbook.

The female orgasm: still just as mysterious as ever

I couldn’t help clicking on an article on I Fucking Love Science called “The Female Orgasm Is Not What You Think It Is.” This is rather clickbaity; there is not really any new revelation about female orgasms in the article aside from the fact that a new scientific paper reports that women can achieve orgasm from stimulation to a few other body parts besides the obvious. But this was a fun article and I’m always down for a conversation about female orgasms. What could be a more fun topic, really? (Contains TMI).

“In terms of ladyfolk, it’s been generally agreed that there are three ways to achieve one: stimulation of the vagina, stimulation of the clitoris, or both. There are plenty of nuances to this in terms of timescales, pace, and ability to achieve orgasm in the first place, but those are the basics. However, a new study published in the journal Socioaffective Neuroscience & Psychology by researchers from Concordia University in Montreal, Canada, has highlighted that some women can probably achieve these biological fireworks by being physically stimulated in several, previously underappreciated erogenous zones. These extra special areas include the lips, nipples, ears, neck, fingers, and toes.”

This makes sense to me. I’ve heard women say they can orgasm from nipple stimulation alone, and hell, Jack Monroe can apparently orgasm from stimulation to the wrist, so why not? It took science until 2016 to actually publish in a paper that women can climax from something other than vaginal and clitoral stimulation, but I’m pretty sure that women have been doing it since the dawn of time. But despite this fancy new research, science still can’t pin down exactly what a female orgasm consists of.

“Based on a huge review of the scientific literature, the team concluded that women have “a remarkable variety of orgasmic experiences,” as noted in a statement. They highlight that “orgasms don’t have to come from one site, nor from all sites,” and that it (clearly) varies greatly between each individual woman. Significantly, the research from McGill and Concordia Universities defines an orgasm as something fairly subjective, an experience entirely dependent on what a woman understands an orgasm to consist of. Rather than just being a counterpart to the relatively straightforward male orgasm, they posit that the female orgasm is essentially a plethora of experiences. The most commonly accepted medical definition involves the contraction of genital muscles, accompanied by a rush of endorphins and, sometimes, ejaculate. However, the key point that most focus on is the “rush of intense sexual pleasure,” which does lend itself to being quite subjective depending on what individuals experience at the time. Indeed, it appears the objective of this new study is to highlight that the female orgasm has no such concrete definition.”

Yep, the female orgasm still defies explanation and baffles scientists, even as we women continue to have them. I agree with the definition proposed above, that a female orgasm is a rush of intense sexual pleasure accompanied by contraction of the genital muscles. I also agree that the female orgasm is a variety of different experiences. Mine are not all the same, they can be as soft as a whisper or they can be so powerful I cry. Although my muscles usually contract, they don’t always. I don’t know why that is. They’re definitely all unique and it’s hard to even describe how they differ. They actually change according to where I am in my menstrual cycle, which is interesting.

“This is a reference to the evolutionary enigma of the human female orgasm. Many have concluded that it serves no direct reproductive purpose, and thus it isn’t clear why it evolved in the first place. Some have suggested that it encourages pair-bonding between partners, but a recent study suggested that it was once the key biological trigger required for ovulation to take place. Earlier in our evolutionary history, both the male and female orgasm were required to begin ovulation. We’ve since evolved a different form of reproduction, and the female orgasm has taken on a more pleasure and bonding-based secondary role – and, as this new review showcases, orgasm-induced happiness comes in many forms.”

Silly menz with their silly “sexology” and “evolutionary psychology.” They don’t understand the point of a female orgasm, and they also think that women who don’t get off on being pronged by a dude are “frigid.” (Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!) I’ll tell ya the point of a female orgasm: to bring a female sexual pleasure, duh! That is in fact a worthy enough reason on its own, there doesn’t need to be any more to it than that. Because of our orgasmic capacity, being in a female body is fantastic and enjoyable. We deserve to have something good seeing as we have to bleed every month and occasionally gestate a baby. The female orgasm is nature’s way of saying “Thanks.”

Notice this article didn’t say anything about women having orgasms by ejaculating out their lady sticks? Science is so twanzphobic!! I wonder how many laydees were LITERALLY KILLED by this article? We’ll be seeing an uproar of death threats from trans activists toward I Fucking Love Science any minute now, right?

*crickets chirp*