Same homophobia, different day

Found in Gay American History by Jonathan Katz, p196–197, quoted from a study on female homosexuality from 1967 by eight psychiatrists and psychologists, headed by Dr. Harvey E. Kaye. Paper presented to the Society of Medical Psychoanalysts in New York.

“A comparison study was made of a group of 24 female homosexual patients in psychoanalysis with a group of 24 female nonhomosexual patients. The questionnaire method was utilized, with the patients’ analysts filling out the questionnaires. Our goal was geared toward the establishment of basic clinical data in this area, keeping highly inferential theoretical considerations at a minimum. Within the limitations of the methodological and statistical factors inherent in such a study, the following is a summation of our findings and conclusions.

Homosexuality in women, rather than being a conscious volitional preference, is a massive adaptational response to a crippling inhibition of normal heterosexual development…

Along this vein, we have found a developmental constellation of traits or activities in which the girl shies away from the female role. We believe, furthermore, that these may constitute early prodromata (symptoms) of a potential homosexual adaptation, which should alert parents and family physicians. These are: (a) a tendency toward seeking physical fights in childhood and early adolescence; (b) a tendency to dislike and play less with dolls; (c) a trend toward excessive play with guns; (d) preference to playing boys’ rather than girls’ games, and a tendency not to play house; (e) a tendency to see themselves as tomboys; and (f) development of strong crushes on women during puberty and adolescence.”

Diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria, DSM-5, 2013

(A.) A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender, of at least 6 months’ duration, as manifested by at least six of the following (one of which must be Criterion A1)

  1. A strong desire to be of the other gender or an insistence that one is the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender).
  2. In boys (assigned gender), a strong preference for cross-dressing or simulating female attire; or in girls (assigned gender), a strong preference for wearing only typical masculine clothing and a strong resistance to the wearing of typical feminine clothing.
  3. A strong preference for cross-gender roles in make-believe play or fantasy play.
  4. A strong preference for the toys, games, or activities stereotypically used or engaged in by the other gender.
  5. A strong preference for playmates of the other gender.
  6. In boys (assigned gender), a strong rejection of typically masculine toys, games, and activities and a strong avoidance of rough-and-tumble play; or in girls (assigned gender), a strong rejection of typically feminine toys, games, and activities.

Also from DSM-5, 2013, p. 455

“For both natal male and female children showing persistence, almost all are sexually attracted to individuals of their natal sex.

For natal male children whose gender dysphoria does not persist, the majority are androphilic, (sexually attracted to males) and often self-identify as gay or homosexual (ranging from 63% to 100%).

In natal female children whose gender dysphoria does not persist, the percentage who are gynephilic (sexually attracted to females) and self-identify as lesbian is lower (ranging from 32% to 50%).”

Even in the present day, the psychiatric profession believes that normal gay/lesbian behavior is a maladaptive set of behaviors caused by inhibition of normal heterosexual development. They’ve just found a less obvious way of presenting it.

A summary of historical medical treatments for homosexuality, from Gay American History by Jonathan Katz, p129:

“Among the treatments are surgical measures: castration, hysterectomy, and vasectomy. In the 1800s, surgical removal of the ovaries and of the clitoris are discussed as a “cure” for various forms of female “erotomania,” including, it seems, Lesbianism. Lobotomy was performed as late as 1951. A variety of drug therapies have been employed, including the administration of hormones, LSD, sexual stimulants, and sexual depressants. Hypnosis, used on Gay people in America as early as 1899, was still being used to treat such “deviant behavior” in 1967. Other documented “cures” are shock treatment, both electric and chemical; aversion therapy, employing nausea-inducing drugs, electric shock, and/or negative verbal suggestion; and a type of behavior therapy called “sensitization,” intended to increase heterosexual arousal, making ingenious use of pornographic photos.”

Children who display gender atypical behaviors such as wearing the clothing of the opposite sex and playing with the toys that are assigned to the opposite sex are still being identified as deviant and in need of correction, and the medical profession is still using drugs and surgeries as a cure, with full knowledge that these kids will likely grow up to be gay or lesbian adults.

11 thoughts on “Same homophobia, different day

  1. They’ve actually moved the goalposts back. As well as going after gay men and lesbians, they are also after boys and girls who don’t fit very tight criteria of gender conformity. Teachers are being instructed ob how to spot gender non conformance and note it down.

    Their genius is that this time they did it by hijacking the cause of Gay and Lesbian liberation and got liberal feminism onside by skinful gas-lighting.

    Why I show those diagnostic criteria to my friends they all.say something like “Jesus that could be me”

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  2. I asked Ray Blanchard whether there was any psychological literature on the distinction between gender dysphoria as a disorder and homosexuality as “not a disorder.” He said the definitive comparison did not exist. I said what about a non-definitive one? I keep getting “they said the same thing about Gays once, they called it a disorder too. They’re dysphoric because of the taboos around it, just like Gays once suffered from internalized homophobia because of societal attitudes. We accept Gays as natural, Trans is the same thing.”

    This is the knee-jerk unreflective thinking of Neoliberals – it needs to be put down. Can you point me. Or better yet – can you write something? Have you already??


    • Well, it’s totally different. Gays love someone of the same sex, and trans want to change their bodies. People should really stop comparing these because they’re totally not the same thing. Just because people need to stop thinking gays are evil for loving each other, doesn’t mean we need to believe that men are women. How does that make any sense?


      • It’s the difference between what you do and what you are. If what you do is not transgressive, it’s nobody’s business but your own. But demanding to be perceived as something you are clearly not, involves everyone.

        What does homosexuality in others actually demand of people who do not care for homosexuality, compared to what is demanded of people by individuals who insist that not only language but sex-based protections be eradicated to suit their belief systems?

        It comes down, to a great extent, to recognizing that sex-based protections were not instated in some antiquated outdated culture, that they have not become irrelevant. And how did homosexuals ever expect anyone to change how language is used?

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      • I came out 35 years ago. I had a not so young woman (with three children) who was struggling with “trans” issues and has since self-identified as non-binary (Mx) and started dating a Transwoman (who is not on hormones, at least not then), say to me – “Well they once thought you had a disorder too.” And I was not ready to go down that road – because “they” were someone I really cared about and could see they were in considerable anguish and couldn’t say well “I’m not, but if I’m honest I can’t say that you aren’t.” And I just let it pass. So I’m trying to get really clear on my thinking around this.

        And I think it’s really important as Transgerism goes National – and gays get sucked deeper and deepr into the debate.

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