Female detransition and reidentification: Survey results and interpretation

Thank you very much Cari of Guide On Raging Stars! What you’ve done here is wonderful and necessary.

Read this survey to find out fascinating insights into detransition, such as most detransitioners DO have sex dysphoria, the average age of transition is 17 and average detransition is 21, they used to identify as FtM or nonbinary or genderqueer and now understand themselves as female. The most common reasons for detransition are a shift in ideological/political beliefs and finding other ways to deal with dysphoria. A whopping 65% of them had no therapy before transitioning, and only 12% felt they were given adequate information about transitioning.

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12 thoughts on “Female detransition and reidentification: Survey results and interpretation

  1. Okay. I admit I haven’t gotten too far past the post below and may not be able to finish reading because of the bullshittery factor.

    “Right…so anyone can be trans for any reason. This definition leaves it so wide open that the term is completely meaningless.”

    It’s interesting that the trans make claims of the greatest of all oppressions afflicting them and them alone yet invite more and more people to identify as trans. They do this by broadening the definition of who is defined by that word. (It has been suggested to me by a trans-wrongs activist that I am really trans because I’m butch-of-center, have experienced some dysphoria in my life -like who hasn’t, and because if I were a lot younger I might be male/trans-identified myself.)

    But here’s the glitch in that strategy. Peoples who are actually oppressed tend not to invite others to be them, to call themselves by their People’s name or to try to have others pass themselves off as themselves. That is viewed as appropriation and an attempt to dilute them. Sometimes it is viewed as another form of genocide.

    I think this is the dead give away. This is how you can tell, if you couldn’t so far, that trans is a false thing/identity/oppressed group or whatever you want to call it. Yes, they have discriminatory factors working against them but those mostly fall under homophobia.

    The opposite happens with groups that are genuinely oppressed on the basis of who they are including lesbians. We don’t welcome folks donning the cloak of our identity and trying it on for size. Self-exploration is a very private process and fluidity is a real thing for some people. I think that’s called bisexuality. A lot of people explore their options when they are young before they settle on what work best for them. However, some clubs have real, biology-based membership requirements. You can’t change your ethnicity even if you are socially accepted into a different cultural group. Likewise you can’t will yourself heterosexual if you like your own sex and vice-versa.

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  2. Okay, I just got done really digging into this. Here are a couple observations jumping out at me: 11% say detransition completely RESOLVED their dysphoria, 65% say detransition was BETTER for their dysphoria than transitioning. 17% said that there was no effect. Only 7.5% reported that transition improved their dysphoria! Now, this is only 1 small study and not definitive, but it appears that transition is NOT a viable answer to gender dysphoria. 68% felt they were NOT given adequate and accurate info on transition and only 6% thought they were! So, women are going into this uninformed or misinformed. This is why gate-keepers are needed. The comments just broke my heart in so many ways! These are women dealing with abuse, bullying, and trying to find their place in the world. I just want to hug these women. It is sad that despite all of the progress the 2nd wave made— and that progress really was considerable— women still have a long way to go. Women, our work is cut out for us. We need to defend our sisters against this medical abuse.

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      • Yes, of course. I understand the limitations of the study, and the self-selected nature of it, among other things. However, this is the study we are considering. It is the one in front of us. It is still significant that so many self-report that transition did NOT help their dysphoria— AT ALL! Now, we need a much larger study with better methodology and controls. I would not be surprised if it yielded similar results. I hope researches can get funding for it, and I hope that there are still researchers who are unafraid of the political and personal threats that they will surely get.

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  3. The average age of transition being 17 is disturbing. It reminds me of that statistic about how a great majority of GNC kids end up as lesbain and gay adults. I mean, many in this sample were transitioned underage and this is the completely predictable result…or it would be, if therapists and doctors were doing their job. That’s why I don’t put my faith in research resolving this issue. The cultural brainwashing is so strong that people seem to be gleefully ignoring all the evidence that is already there.

    On another note, the process taking place between ages 17-21 on average makes a lot of sense to me. Transition happens in, or soon after, high school – and if any environment can breed severe dysphoria it’s certainly high school – and as the brain matures and the person gains more experience of the world, themselves, and their sexual identity, they begin to reconsider their choice.

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    • I also found that very frightening and disturbing. A lot of the trans-identified vloggers on YouTube also say they started hormones around age 17 or 18, and some even lied about how far along they were in their transitions to get hormones quicker. Though there are more than a few happy exceptions, most couples who marry in their late teens or very early twenties end up divorcing, because we grow and change so much at that stage of life. I know at least one person who married that young, to someone she barely knew, and I wasn’t shocked when she got a divorce about five years later. Her “first and only love!” was suddenly someone she hated with a burning passion, someone who wanted nothing to do with their child and signed away all his rights to Husband #2.

      The kind of person someone is at 17 generally isn’t the same kind of person one is at 25 or older. (That’s one of the numerous reasons I’m also so squicked-out by couples with big age differences when the younger party is just a teenager or barely legal!) These young detransitioners never had a chance to live as adult women before they went on hormones and pursued surgery, and odds are good the majority of them never had a sexual experience in a female body either. No matter what the issue, we’re always changing, evolving, and growing as we journey through life. Even if we keep, e.g., the same general writing style, musical taste, or political views, we still tend to change in how we express them, think about them, talk about them.

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