NYC newspaper ad: use any bathroom you want, it’s your right

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The ad reads: Look Past Pink and Blue—Use the Restroom Consistent With Who You Are.

Then, in the bottom corner: In NYC, it’s the law. No questions asked. If you face discrimination based on your gender identity and expression, contact the NYC Commision on Human Rights today by calling 311.

I wonder if it’s possible for women to call the human rights department and ask for female-only, sex-segregated washrooms, on the basis that we are discriminated against as women when we can’t access private spaces? Probably not!

These “human rights” are only for men. Women are expected to accept six-foot-tall males in our washrooms, and if we object we will now have the department of human rights coming after us. How progressive!

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56 thoughts on “NYC newspaper ad: use any bathroom you want, it’s your right

  1. Here’s an idea. A whole bunch of women all over the country stage “piss-ins” in men’s rooms and gender-neutral bathrooms. Go in the stall (or not) and just pee on the floor. That’s what men do. Oh, and make sure your tampons, sanitary pads, Poise pads, etc are littering the floor too. Leave a whole bunch of makeup and toiletries on the counter. Makes sure lots of women are there at once using the restroom because that way, it will be clogged, there will be a line, and men can’t use it. Then when we’re done, they will have to clean up our mess.

    Then again, that just gives them more incentive to invade the women’s room. Hmmm…no win.
    Fuck these guys!

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    • The mess will be cleaned up by the person whose job that is, most probably.

      But there’s a chance that men won’t want to see used tampons and pads, and will complain, and try to get women banned from their bathroom.
      Of course you have to litter the floor in the women’s, too, once the men start going there.

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      • So will men’s rooms now have tampon and pad dispensers and disposal canisters? If not, is that a violation of trans”men”‘s human rights? If they haven’t had “bottom surgery” they still get their period. Similarly, will women’s rooms now require urinals?

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  2. I can’t understand how all this happened in just the span of a few years! I was so creeped out when I first encountered a co-ed dorm bathroom (including showers) during an orientation weekend in the summer of 2000, and knew I’d never request to live in a dorm, or a floor of a dorm, which had a co-ed bathroom. Now anyone who dares want single-sex bathrooms is automatically dismissed as a conservative and bigot, instead of someone wanting normal boundaries and caring about safety.

    I second the notion to stage a “piss-in.” I frequently urinate in the shower, and have also urinated standing up a few times when I was alone and out of sight during a cemetery walk (wearing a long skirt and going commando), without messing on myself in the process. I’m sure they wouldn’t enjoy having their bathrooms being invaded by women.

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    • You don’t have to piss on the floor or use a urinal, just march in and use a stall, men don’t like it. Choose your targets wisely, like college campuses or hipster cafes not bars and go with another woman or more if possible. I ran into a man who identified as a woman in a woman’s bathroom recently at the hardware store, I thought he was attending to something as he was an employee, then I saw the female name on the name tag and the woman’s cut blouse that was somehow suppose to signal femaleness, anyway, turned around and went in men’s. Some man promptly informed me that I was in the wrong restroom, I told him there was a man in the women’s restroom and I figured if I have to piss with men, might as well in the men’s room.

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  3. What could go wrong? As creepers start taking advantage of these overly broad gender identity laws, the public is going to start blaming gays and lesbians and feminists for fighting for the rights of creepy men to undress in front of little girls at the public pool (that’s already happened in New York). All the gay and lesbian (in name) org are just going to hug misguided trans politics harder like the whole misogynist, boundary violating imperative is a puppy but that puppy got worms, mange, and bites. Shit like this is best thing ever to happen for misogynist homophobes. Bleh.

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    • You read that article too, I see. It’s hard to argue that transgenderism is completely discrete from homosexuality because of the tendency to groom homosexuals into it. The thing that has to be addressed is that the term is used to describe at least two differing lots of people. Most of the men are AG’s these days, while likely a lot of the women are lesbians. But when people think both groups are deviant, it becomes a difficult conversation to have.

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      • That recent post on GT about the lawyer for the ACLU in Georgia who resigned over the conflict of trans rights and women’s rights, she has a video that’s posted on GT where a little girl expresses some concerns over overly broad gender identity laws and in it she says, ” how can we talk about this issue without being labeled homophobic”. Not transphobic, but HOMOPHOBIC. Everyone on that page is all celebrating this lawyer and no one seems to fucking notice that she is framing creepy men in women only spaces as a gay and lesbian issue, that is part of the homosexual agenda. It makes me sick to my stomach.

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        • Really? Hard to imagine that one getting past GM, she’s usually pretty sharp about picking up on even subtle anti-homosexual sentiments.

          Transgenderism can be seen as largely a language problem. Gender is about language, gender is a verb, it’s something done to someone or something. There are homosexuals and there are masochistic male crossdressers who get off on playing what they see as a subordinate role, and there are just plain people who refuse to conform to gendered expectations in various ways. When TG’s get angry and say we don’t think they’re real, this is, in a sense, true, because TG is used to describe a most non-uniform class of people by superficial criteria. The word should be ditched but instead it’s been codified into law. Now there is talk about it going to SCOTUS. It’s a national embarrassment. The whole world is going to hell and this government is fiddling around making laws protecting a myth. It might as well be a theocracy.

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        • Go check the site yourself, no I did not see anyone mentioning that the video specifically named the creation of overly broad gender identity laws as pertaining to homosexuals, like men in women’s locker rooms is a gay thing and asked ” how can we talk about this issue without being labeled homophobic?”

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        • In fairness, the little girl is a little girl, maybe 6 or 7. She should not be expected to understand the difference between homophobic and transphobic, especially when all of the LGB orgs are pushing the T big time. Yes, it would have been better if the little girl used the correct word, “transphobic.” I applaud the lawyer for resigning. She is correct, and she is brave to speak out. And an open society should, in fact, be one that welcomes questions. Through dialogue, we resolve our differences and learn to understand each other.

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    • Yeah, I thought it was odd, but I think most women want something done and for somebody in authority to do something, anything, about men in dresses in bathrooms and their willing to look past politics, homophobia, etc. if that person in authority is against men in bathrooms. Which disturbs me, when people get desperate for someone to make things right and save them, it creates an opening for facistic nutters to take power.
      I don’t know what the ex ALCU lawyer was thinking calling men in women’s spaces a gay issue. Like was the video just trying to speak to the general public who trans as mother type of gayness, or the natural end point of gayness? I don’t know, but I found that real disturbing. Keep saying it, but I’m way more distressed by how the excesses of trans politics will be used to roll back gay and lesbian rights and women’s rights than I am about some dude in the bathroom or locker room. It works as such a great political weapon against gays and lesbians and women’s rights no matter what the political stripes of whose wielding it. I don’t know, it’s all so fcuked up

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      • A lot of what has traditionally driven homophobia is the idea of conversion, i.e. “They’re after your children.” With transgenderism, this is not entirely paranoia, what with all the silencing and railroading going on in medicine. I can’t imagine being a sane informed parent and not being extremely disturbed by current trends, all being promoted by the party that brought you gay marriage. Yes, people will be confused, it’s inevitable when all the framing works to align homosexuality and transgenderism. I don’t blame people for thinking it’s a conspiracy.

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      • The ex-ACLU lawyer did NOT say that men in women’s bathrooms was a “gay issue”— ANYWHERE. A 1st-grade-aged (or so) little girl in the video used the wrong word. You are over-extrapolating.

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        • That video was made by the lawyer, that girl is an actress and speaking from a script, I’m not over-extrapolating anything.

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  4. There was an article in Time recently about little girls in NY being afraid to use the women’s locker room at the community pool because there was an obvious man in there, and their parents had of course sensibly taught them that little girls should not be naked around strange men. So they all had to use the “family” locker room. The pool staff said they were thinking about instating a family-only day where adults had to be accompanied by children. They also noted that they were legally barred from challenging the man, or indeed any man.

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        • Excuse me? How rude. Do you assume everyone who comments here is an American (and for good measure, a do-nothing American sitting on her ass)? I live in a different country, for your information. So tell me just how I’m supposed to be on the streets in NYC protesting bathroom policy.

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        • This shit is happening everywhere, not just in the US and women aren’t in the streets protesting in any country.
          I don’t think that women In New York are do nothing Americans sitting on their asses, you apparently do, I think there isn’t any easily accessible organized movements to mobilize women and organize them too get on the streets and the reason is women that do try to organize above ground get banned from speaking and booted from the public hall they’ve rented, I’ve seen that happen with my own eyes,. A lone woman marching about with a sign saying, men outta my bathrooms or something is just going to be a lone nutter, if women are going to march and organize they have to be able to meet and trans activists have been shutting down women who try to speak out about this, shutting them down by calling venues and placing bomb threats, getting feminists who know men can’t be women banned from having meeting spaces on the college campuses they attend and getting their story out about the mean feminists who know transwomen are men are the second coming of hitler in the press while at the same time silencing any opposition, even other trans who don’t toe the party line.
          Why aren’t women marching in New York, why,aren’t they marching in UK. Europe,India, Australia, Brazil. New Zealand, all those countries women’s rights have been impacted by trans politics and no women aren’t marching, yet, cause their isn’t any viable mass movements for them to join and march with. They aren’t marching same reason you aren’t marching, no march to join.

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        • Canada, forgot them, shoot women in Canada should be taking up arms and fighting guerilla wars by now with all the shit that trans politics has taking on women’s rights there. Canada has been leader in much of the “progressive” erasure of women’s rights in favor of penis rights, if any women should be marching in the streets, it’s Canadian women. But it’s all happened so fast, most women don’t even get what’s going on.

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        • One angle that has been worked very strongly is “fussing about misogyny is just selfish when you should all be helping us guys save the world from itself since everything is so scary.” And nurturing identities is just more nurturing of men like women are always supposed to be doing in fake leftism. Poor men are all so brave and risking themselves, they should get top treatment. How can they save the world if women won’t fuck them?

          This is why the right is kicking in on this faster; that angle doesn’t work on those women, the “fuck me so I can save the world” thing.

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        • “I don’t think that women In New York are do nothing Americans sitting on their asses, you apparently do, ”

          This is defamation!

          I didn’t read past this into the rest of you wall of text. I stopped cold. This is a goddamn lie! You are 100% misrepresenting what I said.

          You are disgusting. How DARE you twist my words like this?

          I’m not asking you – I’m telling you: Edit your post and remove this lie. Right now.

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      • It is a fair question. Some women are protesting this. Many are afraid, because threats of rape and death are typically used against them by violent men with an agenda. Others are simply too busy working full-time, raising a family, and doing errands, chores, etc. They are exhausted. More will be in the streets when the inevitable, high-profile attacks occur and are made public, especially if they hit close to home.

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  5. This makes me want to kill myself.

    I also am appalled at the recent 31 (!!!!!!!!!!!) legal genders in New York. A business owner can be punished and fined up to $250,000 for refusing to comply with their identities and for not using their sparklegender pronouns.

    My thought is: if I think gender is an ideology, why should I be legally bound to it? If someone says “Merry Christmas” to me in my hypothetical business, why should I be legally obligated to say “Merry Christmas” back? I’m not a Christian, and it’s my right not to participate. I’m even civil about it.

    This is the same thing. I think gender theory is committing a war of attrition against lesbians, eroding womens’ liberation, and challenging science, of all things. So why am I not legally free (in New York, but you better believe it will spread quickly) to decline the practice and religion of gender?

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    • Because it is part of the practice and religion of patriarchy, and you ARE required to participate in that.

      If someone in your business demands that you use his sparklegender pronouns, demand right back that he use your sparkly pronouns. Make sure your pronouns are difficult to pronounce and very sparkly indeed.

      Reminds me of that part in “The 13½ Lives of Captain Bluebear” where the protagonist spends time among a nomadic tribe that requires you to always pronounce someone’s full name when addressing them – and the tribe members have incredibly complicated names. Not complying with this means you are an outcast until you perform some ritual that includes having to pronounce the name perfectly a hundred times or something.
      Captain Bluebear eventually solves the problem by changing his own name to something almost unpronounceable. He becomes a bit lonely after that, but thinks it is worth it.

      I think that we should do the same with the sparklegenders as soon as they’re made law. I also wonder how Moers could know that this is what was going to happen – pretty sure he just wanted to invent some ridiculous cultural norms.

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    • Laws requiring pronoun use are unconstitutional. They will be challenged if there is an enforcement mechanism (but I doubt there will be enforcement.)

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        • I think it comes up more with honorifics, gendered titles. “Mr.” or “Ms.” Because generally one does not use pronouns to address people. Referring to people in their presence is another one. The idea is to force other people in business situations where they have more power, to validate the gendered identity of the person in the subordinate position, by using preferred gendered language or else avoiding using any gendered language.

          I don’t know whether there is anything in the Constitution about people having the right to have their identities validated, but there are first amendment issues, which is why people are allowed to use pejorative terms about each other, as long as they are not overtly threatening. Insulting people is legal, but misgendering people is being framed as hate speech, as if calling Mr. Twitterflinkle “Mr.” instead of “Miss Twitterflinkle” is actually a threat or some form of imminent violence. No other class of people have any pejorative terms against them classed thusly. So there is also a big equal protection (14th amendment) problem here. In other words; if I can’t address the Twitterflinkle dude who is patronizing my gym as “Mr.” in NYC without risking incurring a six figure fine, then do I get to ask for a six figure fine if my landlord calls me a cunt? Not last I checked.

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        • sue him for not addressing you as mr cunt, tell the judge you ID as a man. There’s got to be a way to punk these dumb gender identity laws, like try to join a transwoman only group at a queer center and sue them for excluding you for being a AFAB transwoman.

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        • How are laws mandating certain speech unconstitutional? That is easy. The USA has the 1st Amendment that guarantees our right to speak freely, even when our speech is unpopular, controversial, or downright offensive. No one can legally compel other people to speak in a certain way. That is why this will never be enforced. It is a “feel good” law with no teeth. Even a newbie lawyer fresh out of school could win this one easily.

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        • They are framing it legally as harassment and they are most assuredly not backing down. Here is a rundown that explains it better than most news outlets have:

          http://gothamist.com/2016/05/19/gender_pronouns_false_fine.php

          The political climate they are creating is enabling abuse in environments that would normally be sex-segregated: no one wants to risk being fined and then have to deal with going to court. NYC is also not spending large sums of money on a publicity campaign discouraging people from harassing any other class of people, I expect.

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        • You can’t cite the first amendment to get away with using speech to violate someone’s civil rights, like this officer was charged with violating a mans civil rights for using racial slurs among other offenses. http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/17/justice/new-york-police-officer/

          Gender identity is being included as a protected class by the New York HRC, it’s going to be a mess in courts as the trans activists are arguing that gender is biologically innate just like sex, like ALCU is arguing in NC, like I believe the department of education has declared. The mess is ugly, going to get worse.

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      • As much as I hate the “Don’t you have more important things to worry about?” (a common entry in the Derailment Bingo, worshipped by Tumblbrats everywhere like the Bible), sometimes, it’s plain truth. People should, theoretically have more important things to worry about than pronouns…like women’s free speech being threatened into compliance with bomb scares, maybe? Sometimes that line is a derail, but sometimes, the high heels fit. Don’t these people have more important things to worry about? For God’s sake!

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