Way back when I wrote the following questions which are designed to make anyone reach peak trans.
- If there is nothing distinguishing trans women from other women then why are we calling some women trans? How do we know which women to call “trans” if there is no way to tell them apart?
- Assuming that transgender means transitioning from one gender to the other, then what did trans women transition from? If they were born women and have always been women then why did they need to transition?
- Do you think we need a word that describes the set of all adult humans who can produce ova and bear young? Why or why not? If so, what do you think this word should be?
- Can you define the word ‘woman’ without using the word in the definition? (i.e. without using a circular definition.)
To fully understand these questions, it’s a good idea to read my post A linguistic analysis of ‘woman.‘
For the very first time, I’ve had a commenter attempt to answer the questions. Hopefully she’ll come back and continue the conversation. Here’s her answers:
“1. What distinguishes Trans women from other women are their chromosomes (trans women posses a Y chromosome) and/or genitalia and other body organs, and possibly hormone levels, though changes to these things are often made. SEX may be ambiguous, as they chromosomes can never change, but genitalia and hormone levels are often altered. However, the trans woman’s GENDER was always, or at some point became female, as GENDER is what you identify as, while SEX is based on physiological factors. Even if there is no hormone replacement/sex reassignment surgery, ect, the GENDER is still female.
2. They were born or began to identify at some point as women, but the SEX they were born with was male. The GENDER was always…or for a long time had been female, even though SEX they were born with was male. Their GENDER did not match their SEX.
There are different ways to transition. Some hide the fact that the GENDER they identify with is different from the one they are treated as, and so they are transitioning from being addressed/ referred to as a man to being addressed/referred to as a woman. They are transitioning from one GENDER IDENTITY to another.
Others choose to have their SEX (physiological factors) match their gender as closely as is possible with the current science/medical advances, so they undergo sex reassignment surgery and/or hormone replacement therapy so they can have no, or less body dysphoria, or feelings of distress that their physiological characteristics do not match their gender identity. These women are transitioning, medically, from one body type to another.
3.No, we do not need a word for that, in my opinion, and we don’t have one. The words female and woman are not defined that way, as some females/women have hysterectomies or are infertile, thus they do not produce ova and cannot bear young. Also, women who go through menopause also do not this definition, but are still called women/females. The word we use for this is actually is a combination of words :”fertile female” or “woman who is capable of physical reproduction”.
We do have words for different combinations of chromosomes someone possesses, such as XX, XY, and others that fall under the intersex category. XX is often referred to as female and XY male, with other combinations being referred to as intersex, but the words male and female are also used to refer to gender identity, which may not match chromosome type. I think it is best just to refer to the chromosome combinations as XX, XY, ect.
4. A type of gender identity. Members of this gender identity are referred to by the pronouns she/her/herself/hers.”
So I have some answers to these answers.
- So you say trans women have different chromosomes and genitals. What’s different about trans women’s genitals, exactly? Also, you say that sex is based on physiological factors. So you do in fact know what biological sex is, yes? So what biological sex are trans women?
- Oh, look! In the answer for number two you admit that trans women are born the male sex. So you do, in fact, know that trans women are biologically male.
This makes me wonder something. Are you aware that many trans women claim that they’ve always been female, and have female bodies even without medical transition, and their penises are female penises. What do you think of that? If someone’s gender identity is female, doesn’t it follow that his body is female, too, regardless of what genitals he has? Why or why not? Also, you keep using the words “gender identity.” Can you define what that is?
3. In the answer to number 3, you say that XY chromosome is male. You also said in question 1 that trans women have the Y chromosome. So that means trans women are male, right?
The point of the third question is to get you to think about the female sex class. Approximately half of all humans have bodies that are biologically set up to produce ova and bear young during their reproductive years. These bodies are named female, whether in humans or other mammals. Female is the egg-bearing member of sexually dimorphic species of all kinds. Young or old females who are currently not menstruating or reproducing are still female of course—they still have the entire female reproductive system, it’s just not currently in use. Women who for medical reasons cannot menstruate or reproduce are still female as well—they have bodies that would produce ova and bear young if it weren’t for their medical problem. All these people with the female biological system are called women and girls. We are treated a certain way by society because of our reproductive capacity. Do you think it’s useful to talk about this group of humans? So far you have said no. Do you really think there is no reason we need to talk about the female sex class? You don’t see any social issues that affect females specifically?
4. You say that the definition of ‘woman’ is “A type of gender identity. Members of this gender identity are referred to by the pronouns she/her/herself/hers.” Don’t you think there is anything missing from this definition? When I read this I don’t learn anything about what a woman is. If I’m trying to choose a gender identity, how do I know if I should choose woman? I need to know what woman is before I know if I am one. So describe to me the characteristics of this gender identity called woman, so I know if I should identify with it or not. What’s a woman? If people identify with this concept then they should be able to describe it, right? There should be characteristics?
(I know the answers to everything I’ve just asked, of course. This is all an exercise in reaching peak trans.)